Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP vs. Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP
Category by category. Sources: Vault 2027, Am Law 200 FY2025, and reported Chambers records from the years shown.
Who Wins Each Category
Each row stands on its own. There is no overall winner; weigh what matters to you.
| Category | Simpson Thacher & Bartlett | Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer |
|---|---|---|
| Higher pay winsTie | $225,000 | $225,000 |
| Higher wins | $8.57M (wins this category) | $1.65M |
| Lower rank wins | #10 (wins this category) | #32 |
| Lower rank wins | #10 (wins this category) | #53 |
| Higher wins | $3.55B (wins this category) | $1.22B |
| More lawyers wins | 2,000 (wins this category) | 1,000 |
| OfficesMore offices wins | 15 | 19 (wins this category) |
| Nationwide, Chambers USA 2026More Band 1 tables wins | 13 tables (wins this category) | 6 tables |
| 2L OpensSummer 2028Earlier date winsNot Comparable | Nov 1, 2026 | Closed |
| 1L OpensEarlier date wins | No 1L Program | No 1L Program |
Sources: Vault 2027 and Am Law 200 FY2025 rankings, Chambers USA 2026, first-year pay as each firm or the market reports it, and program dates from firm career pages on the Job Board. Missing data reads Not Reported and never counts as a loss.
Full Comparison
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
Est. 1884
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP
Est. 2017 · Merger
Est. 1884
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP is a 2,000-plus-attorney global firm, Vault #10 / Am Law #10. Jurisdiction-specific Chambers rankings include Band 1 in Asset Management M&A, Banking & Finance, and Capital Markets: Debt & Equity. Operates from 15 offices worldwide.
Est. 2017 · Merger
Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP is a 1,000-plus-attorney firm. Jurisdiction-specific Chambers rankings include Band 1 in Antitrust, Bankruptcy/Restructuring, and Environment. Operates from 19 offices worldwide.
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP#10
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP#32
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP#10
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP#53
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP22 records
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP11 records
- #10
- #10
- 22 records
- Vault rank
- #32
- Am Law rank
- #53
- Reported Chambers Band 1 records
- 11 records
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$225,000
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP$225,000
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$8.57M
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP$1.65M
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$3.55B
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP$1.22B
Revenue per lawyer
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$2.02M
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP$1.28M
- $225,000
- $8.57M
- $3.55B
- Revenue per lawyer
- $2.02M
- First-Year Comp
- $225,000
- Profits Per Partner
- $1.65M
- Firm revenue
- $1.22B
- Revenue per lawyer
- $1.28M
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNot Reported
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP2,000
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNot Reported
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPNot Reported
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP3:1
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP1.5:1
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP~2,000
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP~1,000
Offices
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP15
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP19
- Not Reported
- Not Reported
- 3:1
- ~2,000
- Offices
- 15
- Billable target
- 2,000
- Partnership track
- Not Reported
- US associates per partner
- 1.5:1
- Firm size (rounded to 50)
- ~1,000
- Offices
- 19
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP100%
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP97%
Class size
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP265 (year not confirmed)
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP37 (year not confirmed)
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPCentralized staffing
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPCentralized staffing
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNo
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPNo
- 100%
- Class size
- 265 (year not confirmed)
- Centralized staffing
- No
- Offer rate
- 97%
- Class size
- 37 (year not confirmed)
- How associates get work
- Centralized staffing
- Specific practice area
- No
1L program
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNo 1L summer program
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPNo 1L summer program
1L applications open
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNot Reported
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPNot Reported
2L applications open
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNov 1, 2026
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPExpected early December 2026
2L deadline
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNot announced
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPNot Reported
- 1L program
- No 1L summer program
- 1L applications open
- Not Reported
- 2L applications open
- Nov 1, 2026
- 2L deadline
- Not announced
- 1L program
- No 1L summer program
- 1L applications open
- Not Reported
- 2L applications open
- Expected early December 2026
- 2L deadline
- Not Reported
Green marks the stronger for the same practice, market and year. Shared results are listed once. split some top tables.
Shared rankings
Rank differences
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 3
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 1
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 3
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 1
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1 · Elite
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 5 · Highly Regarded
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1 · Elite
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 5 · Highly Regarded
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 4
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 2
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 3
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 2 · Elite
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 1 · Highly Regarded
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 2 · Elite
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 4 · Elite
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 4
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 3
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 3 · Elite
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 4 · Elite
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 5
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 3
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 5 · Elite
- Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLPBand 3 · Elite
Firm-only and additional rankings remain available on each firm profile so missing coverage is not mistaken for a head-to-head loss.
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Data sources: Vault 2027, Am Law 200 FY2025, and reported Chambers records from the years shown. Chambers record counts can span years and reporting coverage varies; missing years or markets are not compared. Current Chambers bands were checked against each firm’s Chambers profile on Sep 26, 2026; where Chambers splits a table, every Elite firm ranks above every Highly Regarded firm. Missing values read “Not Reported”.
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